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Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:53 am
by Victoria Principles
Never heard of this Michael before.

Then again, it's amazing that noone knew of DeFeo Jr's wife, child, or step kids. At the time of his arrest, his address was listed as the family home, not anyplace in New Jersey.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:31 am
by sherbetbizarre
The doubts raised about her by many critics seem to be erased. The only factoid that I did not see or was left out was the fact Geraldine surfaced in a Newsday article in March 1986, so it makes it sound like Ric discovered her in that 1999 phone call (which was well done) and she made herself known only to Ric. Unless you reveal this later, or your are trying point out that this is how Ric changed gears from focus on the Lutzes to the DeFeo’s.
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_ ... 2860674098

Good point!

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:39 pm
by Rokiisun
That is an interesting point.

I personally think the re-enactment scene in SH where Ric receives the call from Geraldine would
have been less powerful had there been a mention of Geraldine first surfacing in a 1986 news article.

I know, I know... SH is missing a vital piece of factual information the audience should have known about, but
the scene was nicely done and it added impact to showing the audience why Ric shifted his project away from the
Lutzes and more towards the Defeo Murders.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:58 pm
by sherbetbizarre
Rokiisun wrote:I know, I know... SH is missing a vital piece of factual information the audience should have known about, butthe scene was nicely done and it added impact to showing the audience why Ric shifted his project away from the Lutzes and more towards the Defeo Murders.
It's all :) silly dilly :) anyway, the real reason Ric "shifted" away from the Lutz story was because his Lutz book was put on hold and he wasn't happy.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:39 am
by Ryan Katzenbach
Sherb...George Lee Lutz was f u kking lying bag of :) flower :) just like you. And in the end, Ric Osuna and I beat George's slimy arse in Court, and we beat his attorney Bob Nersesian's arse, too. If you want to sit over here and run your sh i tty mouth, be prepared for our reply. This might be a good time to mention that I have the ORIGINAL emails you sent to Geraldine wherein you were kissing her arse and trying to get a lot of info from her. She filled you, on my direction full of 90-weight. If you want me to air your emails, just say the word and I will share. All of it. Ric and I whipped Lutzes sorry arse in a Federal Court of law the same way we whipped DeFeo not once but twice. So, buddy, shut the fawk up and quit running your mouth because you are going to look like a total idiot in the end. Ric's project with Lutz was suspended? Bullshyte it was, pal. I didn't see your sowwy arse in Court in 2004. Lick it and stick it, beyotch. -Katzenbach

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:49 am
by Ryan Katzenbach
And to Maxwell Christopher Rip Holly......."he must be a short dude." How dare you question my masculinity, you p u s s y. You, and your little cohorts sit on this fukking board and spew your shite under a bu ll shyte screen name so you don't have any liability for you actions. You are a total, total coward. That is a chick thing to do. The reason you can attack myself and Geraldine is because we are not afraid to stand up, in public, and sign our names to our position. Anytime, Maxwell, you wish to grow a bag and come say this to me face to face, you do so. I dare you, you spineless, sackless weasel of a scumbag of a human being.

I'm a phony, Dan? You really wanna go there azzhole?

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:05 am
by Ryan Katzenbach
And by the way, Nolte...you sonof a bitch, you have until the end of today at 5p to get MY pictures and my intellectual properties off of your website, you d i ckhead. If you don't, Amityville Holdings will sue you for Federal Copryright infringment. You know exactly what I am referring to. Remove them and I do mean remove them now. I am not fukking with you any longer, Dan. If you don't a process server will be looking for you.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:53 am
by sherbetbizarre
Why are we still relevant?

With a $200,000 trilogy to promote - and the ghost of The Amityville Horror to lay to rest - you keep coming back here?

You weren't far off when you said only around 10 people view this site, yet - with the film out in the world - we're still a problem?

We wouldn't be if Part I was something you could stand proudly behind.

Why have none of the horror sites been notified Part I is out? Did you go for the True Crime market like you said you would? Or maybe you're content to sell a "few hundred copies" to Facebook fans, while $200,000 disappears down a black hole?

Point being - I think you are deliberately keeping the film from the mainsteam in fear you'll get "found out".

You may be happy as a dozen good notices make you "feel humble", but is Gail happy? Diana? How has this Facebook ghetto furthered their careers while you conspire to sell as few copies as possible? Don't they want their money back? Do Amityville Holdings? Who are Amityville Holdings anyway? Your parents?

The world is never going to see Amityville the way you see Amityville if no-one watches your film. So go and promote it. Properly!

Let's see what the big-boys make of it.

What are you scared of? That a real journalist will find your story and do some digging?

Better to keep things low-key, feel "humble" and live in the gutter where the FAQ are the big bad meanies.

Rubbish - you wanted to change to world. Shattered Hopes was going to be a game-changer. And yet... you come crawling back here and you sound broken. Where the hell has your confidence gone? It's not our fault that your Youtube clips cannot paper over the cracks...

So... man-up, quit the whiny blackmail techniques, and see if you can fool people on a GRAND scale.

What are you waiting for..?

Why are we still relevant?

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:52 am
by astonio
Ryan Katzenbach wrote:And to Maxwell Christopher Rip Holly......."he must be a short dude."
...I inferred you must be short, not Max. :twisted:

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:59 am
by Random Lurker
because of all this thread i went and bought ric's book from his website and i also bought ryan's dvd, wouldn't have heard of either otherwise.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:00 am
by TigresMeow
Wow. Just wow.

ETA: When will the name calling and playground bullying stop, Ryan? I thought the bottom line was getting to the truth. People are allowed to express their opinions. Maybe one of the Lutz boys should tell you to stop talking about the haunting? After all, you didn't live there and the Lutz kids did. You seem to have no problem saying George Lutz is a liar yet you have a problem with some people here claiming Geraldine is lying (with some documented proof I might add)? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

Why don't you address the documentation on Geraldine that has been provided on this site? I see alot of huffing and puffing but I am not seeing any answers. When can we expect answers about Geraldine, with documented proof?

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:34 am
by Rokiisun
Oh dear.. :cry:

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:52 am
by astonio
Something that is confusing from SD: Mrs. DeFeo's necklace. What was the point of Ms. Gates telling Ric, "that's not a Catholic cross"? Who stated otherwise and why was this of any significance? It's never explained by Ric or Ryan or Ms. Gates, yet it solidified something for Ric and now Ryan. I'm trying to figure out what?

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:43 am
by astonio
(Put my review on the wrong thread)

The opening reminds me of the A&E docu narrated by Paul Whitfield. Right down to the history of Amityville. After that, it plays as a speculative narrative. At least with this segment, no "proof" as in documents, research. Ric Osuna opens and continues along with Ryan and Geraldine the story woven from TNTDD. Ric will begin a particular point from the book and Ms. Gates gives her version and Ryan says yes. I was more looking for his part to be played as the fact finder, but it's his testimony throughout. His beliefs and conclusions and conjecture from all parties, possibly save Ric because it's his book! I believe it was KathyM who mentioned it's just as discussed within the threads here. It is. I did find the wire tapping transcripts interesting, but they play as background to running graphics. Speaking of graphics, very repetitive use of stock photos. The same "Buick" neon sign used over and over. What I walked away pondering? Why Ms. Gates wasn't implicated in the murders having known events up to and carefully right after 11/13? For as much as explained, it seems a fair question as she does assert being present when Mrs. DeFeo phones Butch in NJ. Slip ups: Ryan stating Dawn was enrolled at the Katherine Gibbs Secretarial School....of Brooklyn. Helluva morning hike if that is the case considering one, there was no such school in Brooklyn and two, there was a location within 20 min in Melville. Also, Ms. Gates reference that Butch while in NJ refers to his family's home as being in upstate NY. Now, I live here in the metropolitan area of NYC and Jersey is but a drive away. Never have I heard anyone from Jersey refer to Long Island as upstate. It's through Manhattan from Jersey, not "up". That's a bit nitpicking though.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:16 pm
by Dan the Damned
Random Lurker wrote:because of all this thread i went and bought ric's book from his website and i also bought ryan's dvd, wouldn't have heard of either otherwise.
See, we even got you a sale! So quit your whining...
Ryan Katzenbach wrote:And by the way, Nolte...you sonof a bitch, you have until the end of today at 5p to get MY pictures and my intellectual properties off of your website, you d i ckhead. If you don't, Amityville Holdings will sue you for Federal Copryright infringment. You know exactly what I am referring to. Remove them and I do mean remove them now. I am not fukking with you any longer, Dan. If you don't a process server will be looking for you.
Ho hum. "You know exactly what I am referring to" won't cut it (because I do not know exactly what you are referring to). We have a lot of threads/pages on this forum. As I've told you before, send me a list of the specific copyrighted photos and specific bits of "intellectual property" (with corresponding URLs) which you want removed. If you have a valid claim then I'll be happy to remove the items. If you come back with "take the whole thread down," then that is an unreasonable request which will not be taken seriously.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:01 pm
by KNEW910
Dan the Damned wrote:
Random Lurker wrote:because of all this thread i went and bought ric's book from his website and i also bought ryan's dvd, wouldn't have heard of either otherwise.
See, we even got you a sale! So quit your whining...
Ryan Katzenbach wrote:And by the way, Nolte...you sonof a bitch, you have until the end of today at 5p to get MY pictures and my intellectual properties off of your website, you d i ckhead. If you don't, Amityville Holdings will sue you for Federal Copryright infringment. You know exactly what I am referring to. Remove them and I do mean remove them now. I am not fukking with you any longer, Dan. If you don't a process server will be looking for you.
Ho hum. "You know exactly what I am referring to" won't cut it (because I do not know exactly what you are referring to). We have a lot of threads/pages on this forum. As I've told you before, send me a list of the specific copyrighted photos and specific bits of "intellectual property" (with corresponding URLs) which you want removed. If you have a valid claim then I'll be happy to remove the items. If you come back with "take the whole thread down," then that is an unreasonable request which will not be taken seriously.


Bang ...Bang ...Bang goes Ryan's whining drum :roll:

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:31 pm
by astonio
Look how dude talks/types? Why all the harsh trailer-like language?

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:34 pm
by Ryan Katzenbach
You're not relevant, Jason. You're not relevant at all, but just the same, I am sick and tired of listening to your bull s h i t as you sit over here and exert yourself as some sort of authority on my film, me, my company and my finances. To the casual reader, they'd likely believe that you have some inside track, WHICH YOU DON'T. And I'm going to call you on it and I am going to sign my name to it, because, unlike you, I'm not hiding behind a screenname.

I stand behind my film and I believe in it fully. You're the one that sits over here and somehow asserts that I don't. How do you KNOW me so well, dou c h ebag? Answer, you don't. You don't know me any better than you know Geraldine. And BTW, your little assertions about how you've "talked" to Geraldine --- YOU HAVE? Really? Get those phone bills and show us. Because you have NEVER talked to Geraldine other than through some emails which she eventually cut off. You are such a self-centered pompous little prick and I've listened to all your crap I'm going to listen to.
A few hundred copies? Fact is, dickh ead, you don't know what I've sold and second of all, it's none of your fukking business, nor is it the business of anyone on here. You have NO IDEA and when you assume....well, you know the rule behind that word and YOU are certainly quite good at it. You are an arse.

The $200,000 spent on this film IS and WAS the money Diana and I spent and again, none of your :) silly dilly :) business. (BTW, which is it, Jason? When you're mocking me, it's MY $200G "I've lost" and when you want to argue it another way, it's "Ryan's investors who are going to be angry with him." Pick a fukking position, shythead and at least be consistent) If I want to spend money, I will, and if Diana wants to spend money, she will. It's of no concern to you and you're not an investor on the project, you're not a shareholder in the company, so go pi ss up a rope, :) flower :). Who is Amityville Holdings....none of your business. Is Diana happy? None of your business. Is Gail happy.....NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Has it furthered their careers? NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Nothing involving this film has ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU. Why don't you worry about your career? Why don't you worry about what you're going to do with your life instead of worrying about myself and my associates?
And let me put the question back on you, Jason. WHY AM I RELEVANT? After all, I'm a phony and a fraud, your truth is the best and only truth, right? Geraldine is a liar...there is nothing in my film worth viewing....I am a huge failure and the film is a flop. RIGHT? Isn't that what you've wasted 10 years of your life saying? Isn't that your conclusion? ALRIGHT. You've made your fukking point, MOVE THE FUK ON. ENOUGH. But no....I am sure we all get 10 more years of this bullshyt.

All you are is a piece of trash who hasn't achieved anything in your life so you're only mission to attack others who have stood up and done something. You called me a car salesman, which I am not --- but even if I was, it's a more noble career than anything you've done in the past. Why don't you tell us all about your career, Sherbie? Why don't you tell us about the awards, accomplishments and achievements you've come to realize in your life? Let's hear about them, Jason. Go ahead.

Let's hear about all the grand stuff that you've done.

Rick Moran, Steve Kaplan, Roxanne Kaplan, Ric Osuna...Geraldine, and myself have all been crapped on repeatedly by this board. Well, I WILL stand up and tell you to get fukked you scumbag. I've been a good sport for long enough and I'm not being a good sport anymore about this. I may be a filmmaker, and you expect me to be "professional" even as you take a whole different standard against me, LIE about me, twist my words, make up shyt as you go along, and I have tolerated your crap way, way, way beyond what any professional would. In fact, no one should be subjected to this garbage.
Why don't you take the time you spend maligning me to promote your good buddy Eric Walter's film "My Amityville Hoax?" Why aren't you up his arse about the $200G he spent? Why I am I the one who is being subjected to your tender mercies?

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:38 pm
by Ryan Katzenbach
Dan: You can go through this forum and you can take the stuff off that YOU KNOW IS MY STUFF, pictures of me, a painting I did of the house, etc. I'm not wasting my time writing it down for you. BUT, IF YOU FORCE ME TO, I WILL WRITE IT DOWN, and when I do, I will file it. I'm not playing. Get MY STUFF OFF OF YOUR WEBSITE NOW.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:43 pm
by astonio
Sherb, Dan...do we have to put up with this? All this unnecessary colorful language is, well, unnecessary. It's offensive, to say the least and baseless as the director is blending criticisms of his project with flagrant attacks of his character.

Re: Shattered Hopes DVD Review

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:45 pm
by VintageBoy91
Ryan Katzenbach wrote:Dan: You can go through this forum and you can take the stuff off that YOU KNOW IS MY STUFF, pictures of me, a painting I did of the house, etc. I'm not wasting my time writing it down for you. BUT, IF YOU FORCE ME TO, I WILL WRITE IT DOWN, and when I do, I will file it. I'm not playing. Get MY STUFF OFF OF YOUR WEBSITE NOW.
Are you the "real" Ryan Katzenbach?