Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Shawn » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:45 pm

LMAO @ Eber! Great job!

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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Howard64 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:14 pm

OMG...that is terrible!! But funny:)
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby bella2005 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:04 pm

The Jackson 5 were pretty popular back then too weren't they?
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby TrainDispatcher » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:55 pm

bella2005 wrote:The Jackson 5 were pretty popular back then too weren't they?

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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Kinzoku » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:56 pm

Ike and Tina :shock:
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Jacobmarley1 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:07 pm

These are all "poppy" groups, even Ike and Tina Turner doing their rendition of "Proud Mary." I can't see that pop-ish music (Jackson 5) driving Ronnie out of his mind with hate. It was the popular music of the time, and it stands to reason that Ronnie would have listened to that music, too - in bars, at clubs, maybe even at Brigante-Karl.

Dawn must have been listening to some underground black music station with "unique" music not heard on regular radio dials. I just wonder what it was. I'd like to listen to a sample, maybe get a 'step-up' on music I missed out on.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Vinnie Antonelli » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:19 pm

Bob Marley had some hits in 1973 and 1974 including " No Woman, No Cry" and " I shot the sheriff".
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Victoria Principles » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:09 am

Jacobmarley1 wrote:These are all "poppy" groups, even Ike and Tina Turner doing their rendition of "Proud Mary." I can't see that pop-ish music (Jackson 5) driving Ronnie out of his mind with hate. It was the popular music of the time, and it stands to reason that Ronnie would have listened to that music, too - in bars, at clubs, maybe even at Brigante-Karl.

Dawn must have been listening to some underground black music station with "unique" music not heard on regular radio dials. I just wonder what it was. I'd like to listen to a sample, maybe get a 'step-up' on music I missed out on.



Those acts were a little bit outdated in 1974.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby BooshaGirl » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:49 pm

People who lived in the NorthEast US in the early 70's were lucky enough to pick up CKLW's strong Canadian signal. I'm sure Dawn listened to such groups as:

Stylistics (commonly mistaken as Motown--but actually from Philly) "You are Everything..." and many hits

The Spinners (Motown): "Could it be I'm falling in love"

Al Green

Barry White -- many romantic hits

Gladys Knight and the Pips: "Midnight Train to Georgia"

Isaac Hayes (who could forget "SHAFT?" He's a bad mutha (shut your mouth!)

The O'Jays "For the Love of Money" and "Love Train"
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Rokiisun » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:13 pm

I wonder if she would have been into artists and bands like Janis Joplin, Cream, Eric Clapton, Jefferson Airplane, Jimi Hendrix, Suzi Quatro, Lynyrd Skynyrd... :think:

The Eagles also comes to mind :D
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby VintageBoy91 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:57 am

BooshaGirl wrote:People who lived in the NorthEast US in the early 70's were lucky enough to pick up CKLW's strong Canadian signal. I'm sure Dawn listened to such groups as:

Stylistics (commonly mistaken as Motown--but actually from Philly) "You are Everything..." and many hits

The Spinners (Motown): "Could it be I'm falling in love"

Al Green

Barry White -- many romantic hits

Gladys Knight and the Pips: "Midnight Train to Georgia"

Isaac Hayes (who could forget "SHAFT?" He's a bad mutha (shut your mouth!)

The O'Jays "For the Love of Money" and "Love Train"


Great groups, I really love music from the late 60s/early 70s. The music was so much better back then. :)
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Victoria Principles » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:32 pm

Rokiisun wrote:I wonder if she would have been into artists and bands like Janis Joplin, Cream, Eric Clapton, Jefferson Airplane, Jimi Hendrix, Suzi Quatro, Lynyrd Skynyrd... :think:

The Eagles also comes to mind :D


If she was the typical teenage girl, it would have been David Cassidy, the Osmonds, and what ever were the boy bands of the day.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby BooshaGirl » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:58 pm

Vintage Boy--too right. Bands back then were TALENTED....not overproduced and manufactured like most.

I don't know about the "boy band" thing. When I was in Jr. High school, Leif Garret and Andy Gibb and all those creepy teeny-boppers were all the rage with the girls. Oh yeah--and that girlie-boy who was so popular--Shaun Cassidy maybe? He had a TV show -- The Hardy Boys or some crap. Anyway, those bands and artists always made me cringe. The girls had posters of these "Teen Beat" creeps in their lockers. I had Jimi Hendrix in mine. For real. I hope Dawn liked REAL music. She had to. Back then, if she truly liked the R&B music best, there weren't many black artists being "overproduced."
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Victoria Principles » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:11 pm

BooshaGirl wrote:Vintage Boy--too right. Bands back then were TALENTED....not overproduced and manufactured like most.

I don't know about the "boy band" thing. When I was in Jr. High school, Leif Garret and Andy Gibb and all those creepy teeny-boppers were all the rage with the girls. Oh yeah--and that girlie-boy who was so popular--Shaun Cassidy maybe? He had a TV show -- The Hardy Boys or some crap. Anyway, those bands and artists always made me cringe. The girls had posters of these "Teen Beat" creeps in their lockers. I had Jimi Hendrix in mine. For real. I hope Dawn liked REAL music. She had to. Back then, if she truly liked the R&B music best, there weren't many black artists being "overproduced."


The black artists at the time Dawn was a teenager were the pre-disco funk groups like Parliment, Funkadelic, Sly and the Family Stone, pre-commercial Kool and the Gang, etc.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Jacobmarley1 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:57 am

The black artists at the time Dawn was a teenager were the pre-disco funk groups like Parliment, Funkadelic, Sly and the Family Stone, pre-commercial Kool and the Gang, etc.

ah, now THAT sounds more LIKE it.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby BooshaGirl » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:42 am

yeah, those are better groups, but Dawn was dead before Funkadelic anad those bands became popular, I'm pretty certain. Parliament wasn't even known around MY parts until like 1976-77. The early late '60's and early 70's bands make more sense.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Jacobmarley1 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:16 am

BooshaGirl wrote:yeah, those are better groups, but Dawn was dead before Funkadelic anad those bands became popular, I'm pretty certain. Parliament wasn't even known around MY parts until like 1976-77. The early late '60's and early 70's bands make more sense.


The only thing that don't make sense is why music from the late 60's and early 70's would urk Ronnie. They were really kind of mellow, popular, and universal (not just for black people). I can understand him being urked by groups like Funkadelic, Parlament, and early Kool & The Gang, because it really wasn't that "universal." It was like Metallica in 1983 being urksome to people who loved Men At Work and Blondie.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby BooshaGirl » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:09 am

Perhaps Ronnie was just a racist. Well, Kool and the Gang hand the hits "Jungle Boogie and Hollywood Swinging" in 1973. I know Parliament was around before Dawn died, but their major hits, "Flashlight/Aqua Boogie" were popular in like 1977 or 78 when I was in 6th grade. Sly and the Family Stone may have irritated Ronnie because the lead singer had a huge afro and dressed like a hippie. Their big hits were in the late 60's "Everyday People" and "Dance to the Music."

Maybe Ronnie only liked "white" music like the Carpenters or Big Bird from Sesame Street songs.

Of course I'm being facetious, but I imagine Ronnie liking: The Beatles/Stones/Zeppelin. I saw some 8-track tapes in the crime scene photos of his bedroom. It would be cool to know what artists were on those 8-track tapes. ker-CHUNK.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby kathyM » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:43 am

Very interesting Boosha. Maybe Ronnie was racist.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby Victoria Principles » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:18 pm

kathyM wrote:Very interesting Boosha. Maybe Ronnie was racist.


Says here that Ronnie liked soul music.
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Re: Ronnie hated Dawn's "African-American" music

Postby BooshaGirl » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:49 pm

Victoria Principles wrote:
kathyM wrote:Very interesting Boosha. Maybe Ronnie was racist.


Says here that Ronnie liked soul music.
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Well, doesn't prove he wasn't a racist (doesn't prove he WAS, either!) I know a very ignorant white supremacist in Wisconsin who hates blacks and jews. He makes me very sad with his hatred. However, he enjoys the soul music. "The music has no color" says he. "Hypocrite," says me.
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