I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by scipio-USMC » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:34 am

jimmysmokes wrote:
sherbetbizarre wrote:Yeah...
jimmysmokes wrote:because they have nothing to do with there lives but live in the past.
...so why are you on this forum then, lol.
to expose yours and others hypocrisy

All you have demonstrated to date is that you are ignorant and quite unintelligent.

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by kathyM » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:24 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by quotestheraven » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:58 pm

I believe Ronnie is supposed to have Hep C which you can live with for quite a long time with treatment.
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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by jimmysmokes » Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:06 am

though smart enough to figure out who you are scipio, and others too. just call him simple fi
FIRE THAT THING UP!

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by Bodie_Rose » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:35 am

jimmysmokes wrote:though smart enough to figure out who you are scipio, and others too. just call him simple fi
Is it just me... or does this sentence make absolutely no sense?

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by scipio-USMC » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:02 am

jimmysmokes wrote:though smart enough to figure out who you are scipio, and others too. just call him simple fi
You are not as smart as you think, Basilone is simply a friend of mine. If you actually were as smart as you think then you would have realized he is the friend who I referred to who also got banned from Ryan's website. Many of my friends are also former (and some current) Marines that is just so hard to imagine since Marines don't associate with one another or stick together....oh wait we do!

Since I am on Martindale and don't want my family, coworkers or friends harrassed I don't use my real name when I post on message boards or the like and never will. The only name that I reveal is my first name and since there are so many Johns out there (there are 7 of us where I currently work) it is not as if that is a big hint.

On the History channel I actually left enough clues that if someone dug they could have figured out my identity. None of my opponents put the clues together and those posts are now gone as the entire Forum was deleted. Thus you have no hope in hell of figuring out my real identity.

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by Bodie_Rose » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:14 am

scipio-USMC wrote:
jimmysmokes wrote:though smart enough to figure out who you are scipio, and others too. just call him simple fi
You are not as smart as you think, Basilone is simply a friend of mine. If you actually were as smart as you think then you would have realized he is the friend who I referred to who also got banned from Ryan's website. Many of my friends are also former (and some current) Marines that is just so hard to imagine since Marines don't associate with one another or stick together....oh wait we do!

Since I am on Martindale and don't want my family, coworkers or friends harrassed I don't use my real name when I post on message boards or the like and never will. The only name that I reveal is my first name and since there are so many Johns out there (there are 7 of us where I currently work) it is not as if that is a big hint.

On the History channel I actually left enough clues that if someone dug they could have figured out my identity. None of my opponents put the clues together and those posts are now gone as the entire Forum was deleted. Thus you have no hope in hell of figuring out my real identity.
You could be Barack Obama for all I know lol. Why does your identity seem to matter to this guy?

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by scipio-USMC » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:24 pm

Bodie_Rose wrote:
scipio-USMC wrote:
jimmysmokes wrote:though smart enough to figure out who you are scipio, and others too. just call him simple fi
You are not as smart as you think, Basilone is simply a friend of mine. If you actually were as smart as you think then you would have realized he is the friend who I referred to who also got banned from Ryan's website. Many of my friends are also former (and some current) Marines that is just so hard to imagine since Marines don't associate with one another or stick together....oh wait we do!

Since I am on Martindale and don't want my family, coworkers or friends harrassed I don't use my real name when I post on message boards or the like and never will. The only name that I reveal is my first name and since there are so many Johns out there (there are 7 of us where I currently work) it is not as if that is a big hint.

On the History channel I actually left enough clues that if someone dug they could have figured out my identity. None of my opponents put the clues together and those posts are now gone as the entire Forum was deleted. Thus you have no hope in hell of figuring out my real identity.
You could be Barack Obama for all I know lol. Why does your identity seem to matter to this guy?
Ryan has been trying to figure out my identity so he could harrass me and my friends. That is his playbook. Some were hoping i woudl show up at the Beneath the Sea screening so they could get an idea who I am. Since Katzenbach can't effectively attack the substantive points his opponents make instead he launches personal attacks such as attacking Dan for filing for bankruptcy though he did as well so he is a hypocrite on top of liar, insecure mental midget and all his other problems.

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by Bodie_Rose » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:51 pm

scipio-USMC wrote:
Ryan has been trying to figure out my identity so he could harrass me and my friends. That is his playbook. Some were hoping i woudl show up at the Beneath the Sea screening so they could get an idea who I am. Since Katzenbach can't effectively attack the substantive points his opponents make instead he launches personal attacks such as attacking Dan for filing for bankruptcy though he did as well so he is a hypocrite on top of liar, insecure mental midget and all his other problems.

Ok I get it now. I don't pay much attention to Katzenbach but he's obviously a nasty piece of work.

I'm beginning to see why jimmysmokes flipped his lid because someone dared to call Ronnie out for being a lying child murdering bastard.

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by GhostHuntress » Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:12 pm

Bodie_Rose wrote:
Victoria Principles wrote:Don't believe anything Ronnie says.
If Ronnie told me water is wet I would still double check.

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Same, to be honest.
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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by Geenahgee1974 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:03 pm

sickness is to good for him. I hope he lives another 50 years. I hope he dreams every night about his murdered family. He deserves hell. Death is to kind for him.

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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by Matt9290 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:41 am

There is no way in hell I would ever try to defend a character like Ronnie... But in the UK had a child murderess called Myra Hindley (back in the 1960s). I used to be amazed by all the morally enlightened attitude towards her - people wishing her dead, claiming they would like five-minutes alone with her so they could give her the sort of treatment that she give to those children... But doesn't that mean that they are no better than her? Or am I missing something?
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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by Brendan72 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:35 am

Matt9290 wrote:There is no way in hell I would ever try to defend a character like Ronnie... But in the UK had a child murderess called Myra Hindley (back in the 1960s). I used to be amazed by all the morally enlightened attitude towards her - people wishing her dead, claiming they would like five-minutes alone with her so they could give her the sort of treatment that she give to those children... But doesn't that mean that they are no better than her? Or am I missing something?
As I recall Myra Hindley died in prison. It would have been nice if her or Ian Brady let the victim's relatives know where their loved ones were buried as I understand there is one who has still not been found. I think that the revenge / justice factor (some say there is a fine line between both) is an age-old feeling - when it comes down to it we get this feeling of wanting justice for the family and to see the killers put behind bars for life. Or to be put to death. I think from a lot of people's point of view in some situations it was warranted - Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy for example. When the crime is so heinous the ultimate punishment is required and in some way to bring closure for the families (if that is possible).
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Re: I thought Ronnie was supposed to be "terminally ill?"

Post by Matt9290 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:31 am

Brendan72 wrote:
Matt9290 wrote:There is no way in hell I would ever try to defend a character like Ronnie... But in the UK had a child murderess called Myra Hindley (back in the 1960s). I used to be amazed by all the morally enlightened attitude towards her - people wishing her dead, claiming they would like five-minutes alone with her so they could give her the sort of treatment that she give to those children... But doesn't that mean that they are no better than her? Or am I missing something?
As I recall Myra Hindley died in prison. It would have been nice if her or Ian Brady let the victim's relatives know where their loved ones were buried as I understand there is one who has still not been found. I think that the revenge / justice factor (some say there is a fine line between both) is an age-old feeling - when it comes down to it we get this feeling of wanting justice for the family and to see the killers put behind bars for life. Or to be put to death. I think from a lot of people's point of view in some situations it was warranted - Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy for example. When the crime is so heinous the ultimate punishment is required and in some way to bring closure for the families (if that is possible).

Totally agree with you Brendan72. Had Brady and Hindley 'hung' at that time, the family might have moved on.... to a fashion. But having those two in prison was almost like a mental torture for the family of the victims - hardly a month passed without a story hitting the press. And I'm sure people like Ronnie Hindley etc, feed on such attention and notoriety.

But they provoke the worst kind of feelings and reactions in people. I fully understand that the families involved want 'justice' - and had a mad dog attached and killed people, it would be destroyed - you wouldn't keep it in a cage as a reminded.

The fact that someone like Ronnie can provoke such hatred, not just by those who knew him and the families involved, but by by people who just read about them, is surly not constrictive or beneficial to anyone - if fact, it costs taxpayers thousands each year to keep them in this state.
In Hindly's case - the crime seemed almost unbelievable at that time because she was a woman. Brady was considered just another sicko - but they equally were to blame and both showed little to no remorse over the crime they had committed.
They could never have let either of them out of prison, no matter what they said or did, as people related to the victims had already gone on record saying that they would kill them both, and gladly serve time for the crime.
I guess my point is that these relatives, who I am sure were nice normal average people with nice normal lives that we could all identify with. If they could be driven to 'murder' then there is definitely something fundamentally wrong with the law and the way we as a species give value to their lives.
Hindley, Brady, Ronnie and others like them create hatred, which is never constructive.
As someone who did not know any of them all I can say is what they did was so wrong, I cannot even begin to understand their mentality, nor would I want to. But they do not provoke hatred in me - and reading through the past posts, it is obvious that Ronnie provokes passionate hatred in people who have only ever read about what he has done. Maybe because I am a humanist with no religious leaning whatsoever, my view is that this sort of hatred serves no purpose.
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