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Postby sherbetbizarre » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:21 pm

The pics aren't manipulated, but some people will see things, and others won't.
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Postby Autumn Beckley » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:55 pm

O I totally agree with you well said!!! :twisted:
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Postby !~KaTiE~! » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:04 pm

omg i see a face it looks like a lil girl, with her mouth hanging open to me!
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Postby Amityville chick » Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:15 pm

well, im not takin sides but there actually are some faces in this picture. Then in others there can be none. Some faces can be hard to see, it would be very obvious if a face would be added into a picture. But thats just my opinion anyway...... :)
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Postby Alundra » Mon May 01, 2006 9:21 am

Amityville chick wrote:well, im not takin sides but there actually are some faces in this picture. Then in others there can be none. Some faces can be hard to see, it would be very obvious if a face would be added into a picture. But thats just my opinion anyway...... :)


it wouldnt be obvious at all. i can make images that look REAL and UNTAMPERED with from scratch. and im an ameture, imagine what someone with more skills and better programs can do, i mean look at movie special effects! theres proof!!
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Postby Star_Keeper » Thu May 04, 2006 12:04 pm

Hi, I am new here. I just wanted to say the skull face in the door was a good find and so are the others you all pointed out. I think I found something too, I do not know how to insert pictures yet... but in the photo of the house, if you look on the left hand corner of the balcony fence onthe second floor and look to the very right of the corner post, under the leaf I see a face. If you think you can help me on posting pictures I will be glad to point the face out.
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Postby NeoLithium » Tue May 30, 2006 8:04 pm

Exactly, the entire point of color washing images in Photoshop, is lost on the digital scanning of a photograph. For something like that to maintain any credibility; it must be examined by a photographic expert; which would include people who work at Kodak, Canon, Microsoft; not people with photoshop and too much time on their hands.

In seriousness; the person who mentioned that black and white photographs tend to issue and creat unusual images on their paper, is completely true; you cannot, under any circumstances completely repair the damage by using any commercial photgraphic repair tool; since the flaw inherintly lies within the negative itself. It's not like you should be dealing with a pre-modified image.

If you're like me, and stared at the phot for a good 10+ minutes before reading down; you'll realize that you really never saw a damn thing until you started using your imagination to form something that could match it, in your mind; which is the essense of paranormal investigation. You remove anything that could be suggestive; therein lies the only answer, which must remain, in and of itself, compeletely subjective.

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Postby zzvampy » Tue May 30, 2006 8:47 pm

Exactly, the entire point of color washing images in Photoshop


To whom/what are you referring?

This is the second Photoshop reference you've mentioned in two posts...
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Postby NeoLithium » Tue May 30, 2006 8:52 pm

To the simple fact that color washing doesn't always expose hidden or difficult to see aspects of a picture. More often than not; it exposes flaws that happened when the frame of film was exposed.

In addition, with photoshop, it's very easy to add an image that would require difficult digital processing to notice that it had been altered; and given the whole history of the case, I wouldn't jump to believe each single photograph that everyone had taken; especially given the history of investigation of this house, the current residents, the entire history, actually.

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Postby Duderun » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:40 pm

Welll....im not one for matrixing images that aren't there. But, i think this is creepy. I turned the photo at a 90 degree angle, and saw, what looked like a little girl, and a little boys faces in the window looking out at me....may not be real, but, looks creepy. I suppose you can color me a dumbass now. You can actually matrix a few faces out of this one, but, the two children looking ones stood out the most to me. The girl is in the upper left corner looking straight out, the boy is a little lower and to the right, both are in the black circle my non artist ass tried to draw. To the lower right of the black circle is another one, looks like he's grimacing.
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Postby Alundra » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:00 am

zzvampy wrote:
Exactly, the entire point of color washing images in Photoshop


To whom/what are you referring?

This is the second Photoshop reference you've mentioned in two posts...


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Postby radiomixer » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:06 am

Duderun wrote:Welll....im not one for matrixing images that aren't there. But, i think this is creepy. I turned the photo at a 90 degree angle, and saw, what looked like a little girl, and a little boys faces in the window looking out at me....may not be real, but, looks creepy. I suppose you can color me a dumbass now. You can actually matrix a few faces out of this one, but, the two children looking ones stood out the most to me. The girl is in the upper left corner looking straight out, the boy is a little lower and to the right, both are in the black circle my non artist ass tried to draw. To the lower right of the black circle is another one, looks like he's grimacing.
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Very interesting find, Dude, and a belated "Welcome!" to you.

I was lucky enough to have a high-resolution copy of this pic many months ago. Seemed like almost every time I zoomed, I found more faces. They are all over the place in this photo.

There is also explained 'phenomena' too such as this part of the photo:
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So the "shining eyes" are actually a reflection of the two floodlights that are mounted on the same post that held the "High Hopes" sign. I added two lines to show the path of reflection of both "eyes."

And if you don't see faces or even if you do, there's no cause for calling this picture enhanced, photoshopped, or otherwise altered. Just because one can voice a suspicion about something, doesn't mean it has to be the truth. As far as I know the photo's been authenticated, came from an outside source, and Photoshop certainly didn't exist back then. Retouching photos at that time was an arduous task and very expensive thing to do.

I'm not saying it isn't impossible. I'm saying it's highly improbable that Newsday would go out of it's way to have a photo enhanced or embellished without a reason. The article didn't state, "Look carefully at here and here and you'll see skulls/ghostly faces/etc!" I'm not even sure how long the photo had been published before anyone began noticing the faces. So the only thing wrong with the retouching theory is: Where's the motive? At the time no one had spoken of a haunting, and Ronnie had not yet tried to plead insanity/possession. What motive would Newsday have had to gone through that expense for something it wasn't even calling attention to, or related to a topic people weren't yet discussing?

For those of you who believe it is only the power of suggestion, fine, your opinion is welcome too, but you don't have to put folks down just for having an opposing view. So let's please refrain from the 'stupid dumbass' remarks, thanks.

Welcome Dude, Star_Keeper,and Neo!

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Postby FoxyJ » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:37 am

I see 'faces' everywhere, I always have done. In my wardrobe doors as a child (pattern in the walnut veneer), in the floor covering pattern, in the patterns on the curtains, in the reflections in windows etc., etc. I've looked closely and the photograph of the beautiful Ocean Avenue house and can see nothing reflected there that gives me any food for thought whatsoever.

Of course others may see the shapes made by the contrasting light and shade and reflections from sky, trees, passing cars, floodlights etc., as something supernatural; that's fine as we all see things that we want to see in such circumstances.

Personally I see nothing sinister about the house, in fact it's a most attractive property which, had I known nothing of it's dreadful history, I would have been happy to own (apart from the stupidly narrow plot upon which it's been built) A house such as that should have acres of ground surrounding it. As it is, I don't think I could ever live in a place where I knew such an atrocity had been committed, not because I believe it to be haunted, but I would be personally 'haunted' by the enduring images of those poor murdered human beings.


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Re: Face?

Postby adele » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:50 pm

Hi

i didn't see the face at first but whilst looking for it, i saw a face in the middle pane this face is a lot more human looking and i can make out the eyes nose lips etc very clearly the figure appears to be looking down, its just right of the tassle hanging down, now it could be a reflection not sure but still freaked me out ha ha
i will work out how to post pics and circle the face
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Re: Face?

Postby csullivan » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:26 pm

i honestly dont see anything but who knows my computer sucks,all i see is black...lol
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Re: Face?

Postby eber3 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:52 am

"All in all your just another brick in the wall"

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Re: Face?

Postby bella2005 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:58 pm

That is funny Eber I was going to post that I only saw a brick wall and then saw your post.

Just a brick wall. :wall:
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Re: Face?

Postby Grim_Reaper » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:11 am

eber3 wrote:"All in all your just another brick in the wall"

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ok that one i can see the face, the previous version of the pic was too dark to make out anything.
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Re: Face?

Postby csullivan » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:26 pm

yeah i see it too...i am going to do more research on this tomorrow...right now i just dont feel well
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Re: Face?

Postby csullivan » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:15 pm

sorry everyone but i have been not feeling well......anyway i went ahead and looked agin at this pic and zoomed in on it.... i dont think it is anything,after looking at it very close i think it is nothing.....sometimes our eyes can be deceiving what we think is there may not be at all
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Re: Face?

Postby Evanguy Reincarnated » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:03 am

I see the face and skull clear as day. Very cool and creepy indeed! Thanks Howard for doing this for us!! Good job!!
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