Yeah, I'm cool with these answers here. Pretty much in agreement with you on this above.Dan the Damned wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:19 pmGeorge called Kaplan to ask him to investigate the house.
As far as "who called-off the investigation," they both seem to take credit. In Kaplan's book, he says something to the effect of George "postponing" the investigation (as you said, George was upset that Kaplan was talking to the press). Was that an actual postponement, or shorthand for cancelling it altogether? I'm guessing the latter, for right after that phone call Kaplan called the papers and railed against the Lutzes.
So I guess it depends on how you look at it, whether it was cancelled by the Lutzes or by Kaplan.
I believe Kaplan inferred that George cancelled the original investigation due to Kaplan warning him, "If it's a hoax, I will not hesitate to expose it." But that doesn't hold water if Kaplan was the one who cancelled it (as he claims in his own book).
As for the seance and subsequent investigations -- as I said earlier, I feel all psychics are con-artists. I think its all bullsh*t. I think the Lutzes went public with their story, and that made them a target for every con-artist within a 75-mile radius to descend upon them.
Maybe some believe they actually have supernatural powers, but I think its rubbish.
And its hard to say that, because George Lutz absolutely loves Lorraine Warren. George credits the Warrens for literally saving his life and the lives of his family. But I think the Warrens used the Lutzes for their own benefit. And in my posts about the Ghostie Boy photo, I believe I come just short of stating as much. Kinda awkward.
There were incidents that were reported during that investigation/seance thing. A cameraman reportedly had heart palpatations and some people felt "cold spots." Again, not sure what to make of it, if anything. In the end, it doesn't really matter to me. I'd rather focus on the Lutzes and not get distracted by what those on the periphery are claiming.
I tracked down one participant named Michael Linder and interviewed him about his experiences that night (again, in a quick effort at creating some content for my friend's AmityvilleFiles website). Linder basically said nothing happened and that he felt it was all bullsh*t as well.
As for reselling the house, sure, it's not a sure thing to resell if for a profit to a rich paranormal enthusiast. But its also not a sure thing to have a book written about your house being haunted and expect to make some money from it.
If you claim your house is haunted, I think the house loses value (with the exception of a small group of people who may want to buy it simply because it is haunted). If the Lutzes needed money, I think their best bet would have been to stay quiet about the haunting and resell the house. Easy to do if the haunting never happened. But George said he thought the house was dangerous, and couldn't live with the thought of selling it to another family.
But if it was a hoax, there's no reason they couldn't sell the house and do the book at the same time. They didn't have to stay in New York to sell the house. They could have had an agency handle everything and not worry about it.
As for the front door, the following is what I have from George & Kathy regarding that incident.
from a 1977 interview conducted by the Warrens:from an interview on the 700 Club TV program:ED WARREN: In the book, it also said about that front door – that it was almost ripped off the hinges or something?
GEORGE LUTZ: Right.
ED WARREN: Can you tell us about that, Lee?
GEORGE LUTZ: We just came down one morning, and that's the way it was. We had other doors in the back of the house as well. Where the garbage cans were, there was a whole enclosure, and each one of the enclosures had bi-fold doors. One morning we came down and all of them were open – the next morning we come down and all of them are closed. Eventually half of them were ripped right off their hinges.from a public chat session on this board in 2005:KATHY LUTZ: And each night something terrifying took place. The front door, which is, well, it's an oversized solid wood door, blew-out. Not blew-in, it blew-out. And there was no physical explanation for it. That was checked-out by the police, that was checked out by a repair man.As you can see from that last one, I, too, was not clear on this incident. And I'm still not.DAN THE DAMNED: George, I know a lot of people were wondering about the incident with the front door. Was the actual door damaged, or just the screen door? And what exactly happened – did the door come off the hinges without damage?
GEORGE LUTZ: it wa not a screen door..it was a steel storm door
GEORGE LUTZ: it was destroyed
GEORGE LUTZ: the main door was repaired while we were there
GEORGE LUTZ: hinge problems.....not broken from it or off
Like you, I seem to recall hearing that it wasn't the front wooden door after all, but rather a screen door. That doesn't jibe with what Kathy said, however (as you point out), but George doesn't really seem to clear it up, either.
Could it be that the damage to the storm door was caused by the wooden door blowing out? Could that explain the "hinge problems" George is talking about? I'm not sure. If I knew George was going to die just a few months later, I would have asked more questions. I thought I had more time to clear up my questions.
In Kaplan's book, he says that during a radio program on WTIC Connecticut (on Fri Aug 31, 1979) he confronted George about the door. He quotes George as saying, "Well, it wasn't the wooden door that flew off the hinges, it was the screen door."
I haven't heard this interview, so I don't know how correct this quote is, and, perhaps more importantly, I don't know what else George had to say about that.
As far as the séance, I have cold spots in my house, rooms are different temperatures a bit. I think it's just heating and insulation. As far as people experiencing heart palpitations, I'm sure if I had been one of the people to go in that house that night (and knowing that the house might be haunted, etc) my heart rate would've have been already been a bit abnormal.
And yes, the Kaplan/George thing we'll never quite know? Doesn't matter.
The door thing was originally put forth as the front door being blown out. And Kathy did stick with that version. Steel storm door damage? Sure happens all the time. But I'm not sure how a screen door would damage a front door? The wind could blow off (damage) a screen door towards a house not vice versa towards the front door.
Yes they could've had an agency handle it but wouldn't they had to still had to made the payments on it until it sold? Considering if they didn't give it back to the bank? That would have been very difficult having moved out to another place financially speaking?